How To Change To Open Nat Type Xbox 360
After buying 3 new routers in a row trying to find a compatible router at my last house with Comcast, I finally found one that works then move to a house with Fios. I LOVE the speed. But this modem/router took our nat issue back to square one. Obviously we're trying to play CoD: MW3 together, but we're both getting moderate NAT.
Xbox 360 Moderate Nat
I read a couple posts on the forums here and nobody could offer up a solution (looks like it has something to do with a NAT table that's too small or something?)Anyway, I came up with a potential solution but it's something I've never done before, maybe someone else knows how:I'm trying to connect my old dlink router to the actiontec router's internet connection, then have the xbox's connected to the dlink router with dhcp enabled. My theory is to make the actiontec router accept whatever traffic is coming through the dlink router, without knowing what devices are connected to the dlink router.in this way the dlink router could potentially control the NAT between the xbox's via UPnP by itself, and the actiontec router would have the xbox live ports forwarded to the dlink router's ip address.Am I crazy, could this work? So far I have the dlink router on a seperate subnet (192.168.0.1) while the actiontec is 192.168.1.1. The dlink router can ping machines on the actiontec router's network but not vice versa. Also the dlink router cannot access the internet through the actiontec router yet. Which is why i'm here. If this could work, can anyone explain how to set it up?
Wrote:Am I crazy, could this work? So far I have the dlink router on a seperate subnet (192.168.0.1) while the actiontec is 192.168.1.1. The dlink router can ping machines on the actiontec router's network but not vice versa. Also the dlink router cannot access the internet through the actiontec router yet. Which is why i'm here. If this could work, can anyone explain how to set it up?Change the dhcp range on the Actiontec to reserve some adrees for static devices e.g.
Xbox 360 Nat Type Moderate
192.168.1.2 - 192.168.1.240.Configure the Dlink router to have a static WAN address on the 192.168.1.x subnet e.g. 192.168.1.254 gateway 192,168.1.1 mas 255.255.255.0 DNS 192.168.1.1 or yfor dns you could use your favourite public dns servers on the internet. Enable dhcp on the Dlink using 192.168.0.1 Set the wireless on the Dlink to be a different SSID to the Actiontec and use it for access. Any machine getting it's address from either the actiontec or the dlink should now be able to access the internet.To enable communications from devices on the 192.168.1 subnet to the 192.168.0 subnet you would have to build static routes. Personally I don't think it's worth the effort and just use the VZ router as a gateway to enable thru traffic to my own routers and also to control the STBs so just connect all my devices to the internal router either via ethernet or wireless.
Wrote:After buying 3 new routers in a row trying to find a compatible router at my last house with Comcast, I finally found one that works then move to a house with Fios. I LOVE the speed. But this modem/router took our nat issue back to square one. Obviously we're trying to play CoD: MW3 together, but we're both getting moderate NAT. I read a couple posts on the forums here and nobody could offer up a solution (looks like it has something to do with a NAT table that's too small or something?)Anyway, I came up with a potential solution but it's something I've never done before, maybe someone else knows how:I'm trying to connect my old dlink router to the actiontec router's internet connection, then have the xbox's connected to the dlink router with dhcp enabled. My theory is to make the actiontec router accept whatever traffic is coming through the dlink router, without knowing what devices are connected to the dlink router.in this way the dlink router could potentially control the NAT between the xbox's via UPnP by itself, and the actiontec router would have the xbox live ports forwarded to the dlink router's ip address.Am I crazy, could this work?
So far I have the dlink router on a seperate subnet (192.168.0.1) while the actiontec is 192.168.1.1. The dlink router can ping machines on the actiontec router's network but not vice versa. Also the dlink router cannot access the internet through the actiontec router yet. Which is why i'm here.
If this could work, can anyone explain how to set it up?to get both working, you must enable uPNP on your router. If you are connecting your xboxes to your Actiontec, same rule applies. There is no way to allow two xbox's to connect with OpenNAT without uPNP.Your best bet (if you can't move the actiontek behind your D-LINK) is to hook the two xbox's up to the Actiontec (preferable wired, but wifi should work).I have 2 xbox's running fine with uPNP enabled. Both have OpenNAT.
Does anyone here use their laptop as a wireless adapter to get on XBL? I use my laptop as one and I'm having problems changing the NAT type.Mine is strict. If so can someone tell me how to change my NAT type from strict to at least moderate or open? Am I able to do so while using my laptop as a wireless adapter?
Help is appreciated.coolkid93I'm pretty sure you can. What you have to do is change your router settings to allow it to be open.
Basically it's called port forwarding. You need to have the router forward certain ports that need to be open.Check this out: http://support.xbox.com/support/en/us/nxe/kb.aspx?category=xboxlive&ID=908874&lcid=1033. QUOTE='Byshop'QUOTE='coolkid93'QUOTE='Byshop'What OS?
For Win 7 to keep it open you have to make sure that 'Allow other network users to control or disable the shared Internet connection' is checked.-ByshopI'm using vista.I believe the checkbox is the same in Vista. Does your laptop sit behind a router? If so, you will be running a double NAT which can be problematic. See if your router supports uPNP and turn it on if it does.-Byshop It supports it. I've turned it on but I still seemed to have had problems. I'll try it again.
Was hoping you would say leave it the way it is, lol. Imma try to make it openBLAS1ANThe trick is if you're using a router you are doing a double NAT, which probably breaks uPNP. UPNP typically only works when the device supporting uPNP is sitting directly on the internet as your router is.
The problem is since your laptop is behind the router, it's not directly on the internet. UPNP dynamically opens ports on the supporting device, so forwarding the XBL ports to your laptop would not have the desired effect (it would allow Games for Windows played on your laptop to support Open NAT, but not your Xbox behind your laptop).I -have- gotten this to work in the past, but the method is not ideal. If you DMZ your laptop on the router, that forwards all ports not explicitly defined to go elsewhere to your laptop. That would allow uPNP to work, but it basically is the same as putting your laptop directly on the internet. If you go that route you'll want to firewall your laptop, which may adversely effect your ability to play online (or it may not).Bottom line is you may just want to spring for the wireless adapter for the 360 (I assume that's why you are going to this trouble).-Byshop.
QUOTE='BLAS1AN'was hoping you would say leave it the way it is, lol. Imma try to make it openByshopThe trick is if you're using a router you are doing a double NAT, which probably breaks uPNP. UPNP typically only works when the device supporting uPNP is sitting directly on the internet as your router is. The problem is since your laptop is behind the router, it's not directly on the internet.
UPNP dynamically opens ports on the supporting device, so forwarding the XBL ports to your laptop would not have the desired effect (it would allow Games for Windows played on your laptop to support Open NAT, but not your Xbox behind your laptop).I -have- gotten this to work in the past, but the method is not ideal. If you DMZ your laptop on the router, that forwards all ports not explicitly defined to go elsewhere to your laptop. That would allow uPNP to work, but it basically is the same as putting your laptop directly on the internet. If you go that route you'll want to firewall your laptop, which may adversely effect your ability to play online (or it may not).Bottom line is you may just want to spring for the wireless adapter for the 360 (I assume that's why you are going to this trouble).-ByshopI failed to mention that I'm not using a lap top.I'm sorry. I connect my xbox directly to a router. However, I get a message on Halo 3 that says my NAT type is not open. I was wondering if i still need to open it.
Thanks for the info though in case I do use a lap top in the future, lol. QUOTE='Byshop'QUOTE='BLAS1AN'was hoping you would say leave it the way it is, lol. Imma try to make it openThe trick is if you're using a router you are doing a double NAT, which probably breaks uPNP. UPNP typically only works when the device supporting uPNP is sitting directly on the internet as your router is. The problem is since your laptop is behind the router, it's not directly on the internet. UPNP dynamically opens ports on the supporting device, so forwarding the XBL ports to your laptop would not have the desired effect (it would allow Games for Windows played on your laptop to support Open NAT, but not your Xbox behind your laptop).I -have- gotten this to work in the past, but the method is not ideal. If you DMZ your laptop on the router, that forwards all ports not explicitly defined to go elsewhere to your laptop.
That would allow uPNP to work, but it basically is the same as putting your laptop directly on the internet. If you go that route you'll want to firewall your laptop, which may adversely effect your ability to play online (or it may not).Bottom line is you may just want to spring for the wireless adapter for the 360 (I assume that's why you are going to this trouble).-Byshop Yeah that's the biggest reason. I don't really want to drop $100 for some wireless adapter. BTW, can any wireless adapter work with the 360? Or do I have to get the official one?
Thanks for the help everyone.